Quick long week with a new toy (Gateway ML3109)

STRATFORD, NJ, USA

It’s hard to believe, but this time last week I was in Delaware for Dan’s wedding! 

As I mentioned, it was a really fun time.  And, like usual, the week after a fun time seems to be a rough week here at my grandmom’s.  Even after being here for over 10 months, it doesn’t take me long at all to get out of my routine of nanasitting, and then it takes me a while to get back into it.  In the mean time, I struggle.  That’s why, in a way, I dread fun times–I know reality will come back to bite me soon afterwards.

This week was mostly the same, but not entirely: I certainly had a rough week of readjusting after 4 days of fun.  But, almost paradoxically, the week also seemed to fly by.

I think that might be because of my new toy.

Gateway ML3109 Laptop

Gateway ML3109 Laptop

My old Dell Inspiron 8100 bit the dust over 18 months ago.  My original plan was to wait until Windows Vista was released, and then replace my Inspiron with a similiar mid-range Vista laptop, or maybe even go top-of-the-line.  In the mean time, I hooked up an old desktop, and I made do with that.  But honestly, it was starting to get old.

Vista was supposed to be the second coming of Windows XP, but the more I read about it, the more I got the impression that it was the second coming of Windows Me.  In fact, lots of laptop-buyers are still “downgrading” to XP, while others are embracing Vista.  Wanting to make a purchase that would be stable from the beginning but also last for a while, I held off making a buy until I could decide what OS I wanted. 
(Yes, I did consider a MacBook, too, since I’m a big fan of Final Cut Pro.  I may get one one day, but they are just SO expensive, and I’m still not entirely comfortable with the OS.  Plus, I’ve had bad luck with Macs at work.)

I’d say I’m in the top 20% or so of computer users.  I’m no expert, but I’m ok.  In college, I was the guy whose dorm room people knocked on with their computer problems…when the “computer guy” wasn’t around. 
Anyway, I’d consider myself a fairly educated consumer, but I still had a hard time deciding between XP and Vista, and a few other things:

  • Widescreen vs. Standard (I’m not really a fan of widescreens, especially on TV, but on a computer I see less difference than I expected.)
  • Glossy vs. non-glossy screen (I certainly prefer the matte, but the gloss isn’t nearly as bad as I feared)
  • Video card (or, more precisely, do I want to edit video on this thing or not?)
  • How important is S-video out? 
  • How much should I spend?

So, with an old desktop meeting my needs and with questions on my mind, I kept my eyes on the PC market, but I wasn’t in a rush to buy.

The one thing I knew for sure was that I wanted something lightweight, and I was willing to pay for it.  My old Inspiron was a brick, and that’s not what I want in a laptop (I can’t believe people actually buy those 17″ behemoths they sell nowadays!).  In addition to cutting down your mobility, a bulky laptop is a bigger target for bumps and knocks, and that’s what did my Inspiron in.

I came VERY close to buying the Lenovo Thinkpad T61 about 2 weeks ago.  As far as laptops go, it’s close to being the very top of the line.  But in the end, I decided that I didn’t want to spend that much and not have S-video out.  (I think I’m probably the only one who appreciates that feature, which is probably why you don’t see it all the time.)

The new Dell Vostro 1400 definitely caught my eye, too.  But I had heard some negative reports about the build quality and size/weight, and I wanted to see one in person before going that route. 
And, of course, I kept my eyes peel for pretty much everything else, too.

After I got back from the wedding on Sunday, I noticed that Best Buy was running a sale on the Gateway M3109 for $350.  So, I bought one.

Pros 

Normally, I’m not too interested in the super-cheapies. 
They are usually big and bulky and cheap-looking.  But I went to Best Buy to look, and this one wasn’t.  It has a 14.1″ screen–the cheapies are usually about 15.1″, and bigger isn’t always better.  It’s only about an inch and a half thick, and it’s nice and lightweight.  I have my mobility!
While it’s not a Thinkpad, it is well put together, and it doesn’t look cheap at all; it looks like a $900 laptop.  It’s also extremely quiet and very cool.  I’ve had this thing on my lap for hours and it’s barely even warm, let alone hot!

I haven’t really tested the battery life yet, but seems pretty good.

The media card reader is a nice plus, too.

Cons and Upgrades

That said, it’s obviously not perfect.
It was SLOW out of the box, for sure; the fact that Gateway sells this thing with Vista and only 512MB of RAM is a friggin’ crime, especially when a good chunk of that RAM is shared with video.  Even the Vista Home Basic it comes with is too memory-hungry for the out-of-box configuration.

The first thing I did was configure it the close to the way BlkViper suggests. After I turned off most of Windows’ graphical features and cleaned out the startup programs with MSConfig, it was humming along pretty nicely.
I’d say this is the minimum you need to do for this computer. Doing just that, it’s actually pretty decent.  But you really should do a little more.

(My grandkids will make fun of me one day for turning off all sorts of graphical stuff to get a little bump in performance.  haha.)

I added 1GB of RAM ($35 shipped from NewEgg), bringing it to 1.5GB, and that made a HUGE difference.  I also allocated 128MB to video in the BIOS, and did a reformat and clean install of Vista (surprisingly fast to do), and right now, I’m very happy with it.
(I almost didn’t bother with the clean install of Vista, and I didn’t really need to, but I’m glad I did.  The bloatware wasn’t too intrusive, but it was there nonetheless.)

Obviously, it’s not a computer for power-users (Celeron M 1.6 GHz), but many people vastly overestimate the amount of power they will actually need.  If you’re not a gamer, you really don’t need all that much processing power.  I mean, before I got this, I could listen to music, edit photos, chat, and surf all at the same time on an old 733MHz Pentium running Windows ME!  And this is a huge step up from there.

Other problems: I don’t like where the left control key is placed, and there’s a tiny bit of a lag in opening some documents, I think due to HD speed.  The built-in speakers are mediocre, but that goes for most laptops.  The lack of a built-in microphone sucks just a little (and is an odd thing to leave off).  There’s no DVD burner, but I have an external HD, so no worries there.  It burns CDs, anyway.

Verdict

I installed OpenOffice.org, the GIMP, and a some other free software, and I have a fully-functional PC for 400 bucks! 

If I can find my disk, I might install Ubuntu, too, just for the hell of it.

All in all, it might have been a little bit of an impulse buy, but not really.  I had been in the market for a laptop for a while, and this certainly fit my needs, so I pounced on it.  It does 85% of what I wanted to do for about 35% of what I wanted to spend–that’s what I call a value. 

I also like the fact that, at this price, I don’t have to worry too much if something happens to it.  Whenever I finish watching my grandmom full-time, I plan on travelling.  This is the kind of laptop I can travel with, but not stress out about if it gets lost, stolen, or broken while on the road.

I might decide to an upgrade to a better computer a year from now (Quad Core?), or maybe even six months from now.  Or maybe not.  Either way, I expect to keep this on hand for a while, either as a primary or secondary computer.  And I think I’m going to be very happy with it.

This laptop meets my needs, and for $350, it’s a great value.  Just make sure you either upgrade the RAM or install a less-hungry OS.

:-)

UPDATE (9/28/07)

Believe it or not, this has proven to be one of the most popular posts I’ve ever written (probably because so many people took advantage of the great Best Buy deal).  So, since it’s getting a fair amount of attention, I thought I’d post a real short update, now that I’ve had this computer for nearly two weeks. 

At this point, pretty much everything I’ve written above still stands. 
I’m still very happy with this computer for the price.  The delay in starting office documents is probably my biggest pet peeve.  I’m not sure if that’s because of the slow HD, the processor, or just a quirk in OpenOffice.org (it’s my first time using this office suite). 

I still hope to make this a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu Linux, but rumor has it that it’s currently next to impossible to get the sound and wireless internet working with it.  Hopefully that will get resolved, and I’ll be able to play around with it.

I am not particularly fond of Windows Vista.  It has some very nice new features, for sure (I especially like the focus on metadata).  But this system still seems to lock up on me once or twice a day; sometimes the task manager won’t even open!  It’s less stable than XP, for sure.  Also, I just don’t understand why it needs SO much memory. 
It’s not terrible, and I’m sure it’ll get better once SP1 comes out.  But, for now, I miss XP.

Link du jour:  If you haven’t watched  South Jersey’s Nitro Girl on Colbert yet, you really should!

14 Responses

  1. I bought a open box Gateway ML3109 notebook for $346 (tax included)at BestBuy on 9/16/07. I gave up probing and tweaking the Vista after a week. I erased and repartition the HD, put XP Pro SP1 which I got BSOD after first reboot. I booted to safemod and installed XP Pro SP2, my Gateway ML3109 booted happily ever after! I found http://robbray.com/gateway-ml3109-drivers-for-windows-xp/ useful, except I had to get the latest Synaptics touchpad driver from Synaptics web site. I tried to multiboot with Fedora core 6, everything is okay, except I can’t get sound or the WIFI to work.

  2. Hi, Gary,

    I found your post while doing a google search on the ML3109. Thinks for the information. I plan to go to my computer tech and upgrade the memory and also discuss with him the other tweaks you mention. I wish I was computer savvy enough to try some of these things on my own. I was disappointed with the performance of this laptop but now feel better after reading about your experience with it. Thanks again for posting this.
    I also commend you for all you are doing for your nana especially because of all you had to give up. (I was impressed enough with this post that I read some more of your blog.) :)

    God Bless,
    Debbie

  3. Just say thanks for all information, and I still waiting for Linux installation.

    surya

  4. hi! i had the ml3109 for 3 weeks already. i was totally unsatisfied with windows vista. i actually went to best buy and got it optimized (total waste of money), but still still had that lagging problem when it starts up. i went to a friends place and he installed xp on there and now it is a perfect laptop. im so happy with it! the only thing in the end that disappoint me was wasting $29 for that optimization for nothing.

  5. I have had my ML3109 which i picked up from bestbuy by way of slickdeals.net for about a month now. I purchased 2GB of memory for 50$ from newegg and this laptop runs perfect for me. Im not a gamer, and all I really want to do is chat, listen to music, upload pictures, surf the web, email, wordprocess, etc., and this thing has been more than satisfying so far. The only complaint I have is the battery life. I wondered if anyone else had noticed this problem? If you change the settings so that it has a longer battery life, it utilizes less cpu performance and therefore becomes slower in general, which is no good either. Im looking into just purchasing a longer lasting battery so I don’t have to sacrifice cpu performance for longer batter life. Other than that, this machine was a steal at around 400$.

  6. I picked up one these at best buy. I had vista on it for about 3 days – I tried a few tweaks but gave up (dog slow) and installed linux (centos 5); added another gig of ram; I did need to download a driver from realtek and rebuild the kernel to get wireless to work – once I found the instructions it wasn’t as painful as I remember it from the last time several years ago when I needed to build a kernel. All in all I am very impressed with this machine. Considering the low cost, relatively compact size, low heat, and performance it is definately one of the better values I have come across.

  7. Jay,

    The link for the XP drivers for the 3109 does not work. I’m trying to upgrade my 3109 from Vista to XP but Gateway does not have drivers to support.

    Is there another source for all the drivers I need?

    Cheers,

    Bob

  8. [...] I bought my laptop back in September, I decided to have some fun with it.  I didn’t go after the highest-end machine out there; [...]

  9. My dad bought this computer for himself and then he gave it to me. I like it because it looks nice and is small enough to put it in my bag and take it to school. The bad part is that it’s way too slow.

    My dad said he “might” get me a different laptop, which I hope happens :]

  10. Has anyone had to open the bottom of their Ml3109?…I have used my laptop maybe 3 dozen times and the fan went out in it causing it to over heat and shut down. I bought another fan and need to open the bottom to install it…I have taken all the screws out and still have resistance and cannot get the darn thing open…Any suggestions?

  11. i bought a used ML3109 it was pretty slow but i changed to Windows 7 and i did not have to look for any drivers and now it’s way faster than with Vista..

  12. plz i need a driver of gateway 3109 for XP, the link: http://robbray.com/gateway-ml3109-drivers-for-windows-xp/
    dosn’t function. I need solution, I don’t like vista,it is very very slow!!

  13. Laptops will change the country when they are accessible to everyone financially. Think of every man and women, having a personal laptop.

  14. i bought this computer from Bestbuy on 8/2/07….and its 2010 and still no problems!!! freaking amazing…lol

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